Dear all, apologies but this is my first post so forgive me if it meanders a bit.

I'm looking for peoples experiences with a site, but first will give those I have of two real charlatans :

hornymatches.com - total scam, I fell for it. Plenty of apparent interest leading up to the parting of cash following by nothing afterwards (a slight increase in wink activity since clicking the "do not renew" button). To date I'm 99% sure I haven't interacted with a single, real person. Does anyone know if they continue billing your card after you've cancelled (I know a lot of places will do this) ?

benaughty.com - exactly as above except I wasn't stupid enough to get caught twice, never paid up.


Now, swingingheaven.co.uk does look different. On the face of it you still ahve to become a paying member to read messages and browse 90% of the photos. There does appear to be a lot of up-front interest. But, even without paying you can leave short messages and they do provide convincing evidence of how long members have been members and when they were last active as well as a notes history.

So, has anyone ever used this and is it a reasonable site or is it just another scam with a slightly better act ?

It also occurred to me that one way to beat the top two would be to set up a list somewhere (here maybe; administrator ?) of id's on each that we know to be "real". You keep your free profiles and such like on the original sites but we have some means of being able to build a list of who might respond.

I don't know if this could ever work, it would depend on how many ID's we could build up I suppose; you never know, it might even persuade them that, actually, they have a site that would work if run properly !

Feedback appreciated.

Thanks - bearfactz

Hi, i have been a member of Swinging Heaven for 6 years. As part of a couple and as a single guy. And have found the site to be genuine. It used to be a free site, but when it became very popular they asked new members to pay. However if you were already a member, you were given a free lifelong membership. Which i thought was very fair. The ad min side and organisation of SH is excellent.
The actual participation on SH varies. If you are a couple with a good looking female, you will receive a lot of attention whether asked for or not. But if you are a couple looking for another couple then you should have some success. The single guy side of things is different as there are that many of them. You could have movie star looks with a blue movie stars endowment but your ad may not get viewed as that many other guys are either placing new ads or updating older ones that yours gets pushed further and further down the lists. But you can update it every four hours. So you may get lucky. I find the best approach is to search the couples looking for single men category and hopefully some couple may like the look of you. The single women looking for men category is in my opinion the bull*censored* category and seems to have a lot of women who have their husbands/partner permission to play as long as the male partner can watch (so they are not single women at all) Also you will see the same beautiful single woman advertising for a man week after week. I think in all of the categories a proportion of the ads are written by single guys getting their rocks off getting people to reply to their fake ads.
It is said there are a lot of timewasters and fantasists on SH and in my experience this is true. But there are, (again in my experience) many genuine people who just want a sexy time.

Thanks for the information, I may well consider taking this one up.

I've found about 6 "real" people on Hornymatches so far after trying to contact over 300 !

I've also discovered that, although you can send emails to some members, they never receive them unless they have contacted you via a wink first !

Still, it all adds to life's rich tapestry !